During a collaboration that promoted mental health awareness, Serena Williams admitted that Prince Harry helps in solving her life's problems.
Williams and the Duke of Sussex appeared on a panel for BetterUp, a company that provides employee coaching and mental health services, alongside CEO Alexi Robichaux.
The royal, who serves as the company’s chief impact officer, spoke with Serena about facing burnout, setting boundaries and dealing with loss and setbacks in life. Toward the end of the panel, Serena even divulged that Harry is one of her go-to people for solving her life problems.
“It’s hard. I’m a terrible loser,” Serena said. “When it comes to losing, I even hate that word,” she noted. “Because for me, if I have a loss I actually learn so much from it.”
Williams would go on to explain that “some of my best growth has come from a loss.”
“Even when I’m investing in a company, I actually want to know about your losses,” the 23-time Grand Slam winner said. “If you started a company before, how did you do? ... Where did you kind of fail at? Because if everything was so good and so clean and so easy, then that doesn’t even build character, you know?”
Harry chimed in and spoke to the idea that people can continue to grow and learn from setbacks.
“If you’re in your 20s, your 30s, your 40s and even your 50s, and you think you’ve got it sorted, then bad stuff’s gonna happen,” Harry said. “There’s a lesson here. There’s a lesson I’m being schooled by the universe. There’s something in this for me to learn.
“So that next time it happens, I become more resilient or better at being able to see a way around it, to be able to achieve the ultimate goal. And if you have that perspective, then every single bad thing that happens ― again, what you perceive to be bad ― actually can be good.”
Toward the end of the talk, Serena said the duke had helped her find a mental coach whom she continues to work with. And beyond that, she said, Harry is “always solving” her “life’s problems.”
“I know I joke a lot, but Harry is actually one of my coaches,” Serena said, laughing. “Whenever I see him, he’s always solving all my life’s problems, so I kind of give that to your BetterUp coach, it’s kind of helped me ― so thank you!”
Williams is longtime friends with Harry’s wife, Meghan Markle, and attended the royal couple’s wedding in 2018 with her husband, Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian. Meghan and Ohanian appeared together on a panel for a TIME 100 Talk in October 2020.